These rings arrived unsized so we separated them into s m and l and put the quantities into 00 (zero zero) sizes then sent them into the shop in treasure chest type boxes unlabelled so that when they went through vend as a sale we measure them and put them through as the correct thing sending it into minuses and we can then adjust the inventory later. kaari authorised. too much time would be spent on measuring them when we could just do it as we go.